{"id":26342,"date":"2023-01-20T09:37:41","date_gmt":"2023-01-20T07:37:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.leonardcohen.de\/?p=26342"},"modified":"2023-01-22T13:07:43","modified_gmt":"2023-01-22T11:07:43","slug":"kw-03-2023-leonard-cohen-and-david-crosby-and-csn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/leonardcohen.de\/?p=26342","title":{"rendered":"KW-03-2023: DAVID CROSBY was originally set to produce Leonard Cohen\u2019s album SONGS FROM A ROOM. \u201cI love his lyrics, I think they\u2019re fantastic. I like his songs, I love his lyrics. And I like him, I thought that what he was portraying in this world was good. His insights were deep“, Crosby said 2 years ago on AMERICANSONGWRITER.COM – #Leonard_Cohen_and_David_Crosby"},"content":{"rendered":"

\u201cI love his <\/b>lyrics,<\/b> I think they\u2019re fantastic.\u00a0 I like <\/b>his songs, I love his lyrics.\u00a0 And I like him, I <\/b>thought that what he was portraying in this <\/b>world was good.\u00a0 His insights were deep.\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n

DAVID CROSBY was <\/b>originally <\/b>set<\/b> to <\/b>produce<\/b> Cohen\u2019s <\/b>album <\/b>SONGS <\/b>FROM A <\/b>ROOM<\/b><\/h2>\n

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In fact, Crosby actually began the process of producing the album, recording a few tracks with Cohen in Hollywood in May 1968.- That`s one of „5 Things You May Not Have Known About David Crosby“ on an article on RHINO.COM on Tuesday, August 14, 2018, still available under the following link: https:\/\/www.rhino.com\/article\/5-things-you-may-not-have-known-about-david-crosby<\/a><\/p>\n

\u201cCohen had resisted the former Byrd\u2019s attempts to mold his music until it became a part of California\u2019s burgeoning hippie-folk scene,\u201d wrote Douglas Heselgrave in the May 2007 issue of The Music Box. \u201cDespite his sympathies for many of the ideas floating around in the aftermath of the summer of love, Cohen\u2019s musical aesthetics veered more closely to the sounds of country music, which may seem ironic given it was a collection of songs that celebrated transience and bohemian lifestyles.\u201d In the end, Cohen opted to shift directions and move forward with Bob Johnston as the producer instead, preferring the sound that Johnston had gotten for such artists as Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan.<\/p>\n

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„Okay, okay, this is an admittedly random question, but there are so few details out there about it that I can\u2019t help but ask \u2014 what\u2019s the story with you and Leonard Cohen? You were originally slated to produce his second album, but it fell through. What happened?, asked Joe Vitagliano 2 years ago on: https:\/\/americansongwriter.com\/a-conversation-with-david-crosby\/<\/a><\/p>\n

DAVID CROSBY: It was very frustrating, man. I could see how good he was. I mean, if you read his lyrics, you\u2019re stunned by how talented the guy was. But, when I met him he wasn\u2019t a very good singer. Joni and him were friends and she brought him to me just after I had produced her record. I did a session with him and I just couldn\u2019t do it. I wasn\u2019t the right person to record him. He wasn\u2019t the kind of singer I wanted to record, I like a different type of singer. The chemistry wasn\u2019t there and I said \u201cLook, I can\u2019t do this,\u201d so we moved on.\u00a0 I love his lyrics, I think they\u2019re fantastic. I like his songs, I love his lyrics. And I like him, I thought that what he was portraying in this world was good. His insights were deep. But, as a singer trying to make a record\u2026 well, uh-uh. Sorry, that\u2019s not for me.<\/p>\n

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\u00a0Tats\u00e4chlich begann Crosby\u00a0 mit der Produktion des Albums und nahm im Mai 1968 einige Tracks mit Cohen in Hollywood auf. „Cohen hatte den\u00a0 Versuchen des ehemaligen Byrd,\u00a0 seine Musik zu formen,\u00a0 widerstanden, bis sie Teil\u00a0 der\u00a0 aufkeimenden kalifornischen Hippie-Folk-Szene\u00a0 wurde“, schrieb Douglas Heselgrave in der Mai-Ausgabe\u00a0 2007. von The Music Box. „Trotz seiner Sympathien f\u00fcr viele der Ideen, die\u00a0 nach\u00a0 dem Sommer der Liebe\u00a0 herumschwirrten,\u00a0 wandte sich Cohens musikalische \u00c4sthetik mehr den Kl\u00e4ngen der Country-Musik\u00a0 an, die\u00a0 mag ironisch erscheinen, wenn man bedenkt, dass es eine Sammlung von Liedern war\u00a0 , die Verg\u00e4nglichkeit und Boh\u00e8me-Lebensstil feierten.“ Am Ende entschied sich Cohen, die Richtung zu \u00e4ndern\u00a0 und\u00a0 stattdessen mit Bob Johnston als Produzent weiterzumachen, wobei er den Sound bevorzugte,\u00a0 den\u00a0 Johnston\u00a0 f\u00fcr K\u00fcnstler\u00a0 wie Johnny Cash und Bob Dylan bekommen hatte.<\/em><\/p>\n

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Es war sehr frustrierend, Mann. Ich konnte sehen, wie gut er war. Ich meine, wenn man\u00a0 seine Texte liest, ist man verbl\u00fcfft\u00a0 ,\u00a0 wie talentiert der Typ war. Aber als ich\u00a0 ihn traf, war er\u00a0 kein sehr guter S\u00e4nger. Joni\u00a0 und er waren Freunde und sie brachte ihn zu mir, kurz nachdem ich\u00a0 ihre Platte produziert hatte. Ich habe eine Sitzung mit ihm gemacht\u00a0 und ich konnte es einfach nicht\u00a0 tun. Ich war nicht die richtige Person, um\u00a0 ihn aufzunehmen. Er war nicht die Art von S\u00e4nger,\u00a0 die\u00a0 ich aufnehmen wollte, ich mag eine andere Art von S\u00e4nger\u00a0 . Die Chemie stimmte nicht\u00a0 und\u00a0 ich\u00a0 sagte: „Schau, ich kann das nicht“, also machten wir\u00a0 weiter. Ich liebe seine Texte, ich finde sie fantastisch. Ich mag\u00a0 seine\u00a0 Lieder, ich liebe seine Texte. Und ich mag ihn, ich dachte,\u00a0 dass das, was er\u00a0 in dieser Welt darstellte,\u00a0 gut war. Seine Einsichten waren tief. Aber als S\u00e4nger, der\u00a0 versucht,\u00a0 eine Platte zu machen…\u00a0 naja, uh-uh. Tut mir leid, das ist nichts f\u00fcr mich.<\/em><\/p>\n

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\u201cI love his lyrics, I think they\u2019re fantastic.\u00a0 I like his songs, I love his lyrics.\u00a0 And I like him, I thought that what he was portraying in this world was good.\u00a0 His insights were deep.\u201d DAVID CROSBY was originally set to produce Cohen\u2019s album SONGS FROM A ROOM # In fact, Crosby actually began […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":26386,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-26342","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-allgemein"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/leonardcohen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26342","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/leonardcohen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/leonardcohen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leonardcohen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leonardcohen.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=26342"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/leonardcohen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26342\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":26389,"href":"https:\/\/leonardcohen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26342\/revisions\/26389"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leonardcohen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/26386"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/leonardcohen.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=26342"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leonardcohen.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=26342"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/leonardcohen.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=26342"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}